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Treefrog Toadhopper
12-05-2009, 01:57 PM
It seems to me that we are in a chicken and egg situation with regard to our boss runs - we need to get the word out about our new schedule for the runs to be successful, but we need the runs to be successful while we are in the process of getting the word out. I have a selfish interest in this because I like the idea of having more choices for boss runs, and I don't think I am the only one.

I have thought and still think that it's just a matter of people finding out about us, but I also worry it will take too long and that at least some of what they find out about us now is that our runs are hit or miss. Last night, after only three of us showed up for the 11:15 ceo run, I came up with an idea that I'll summarize here to find out if it seems doable. This will take a while - my apologies in advance for the long post.

First some arithmetic. We have 23 runs in each boss per week for a total of 92 runs. I'm going to arbitrarily state as a premise that it takes four good toons for a successful (and by that I mean everyone dances AND it takes a reasonable amount of time for that to happen) vp or cfo and six toons for a successful cj or ceo. Yes, I know they can be done with fewer and that those are often the most fun, but I'm talking about the kind of run that a casual player will not run away from.

So 92 runs - half with four toons and half with six, average of five. That's a total of 460 toons needed to assure that every run can happen as scheduled.

My suggestion is this - we get volunteers to "own" those 460 positions. You commit to showing up for 2 or 6 or 20 runs every week for as long as it takes to make our runs credible - whatever you are comfortable with. For example, I'm not a real heavy duty player - maybe two hours a night and an hour more or less in small pieces during the day. I can comfortably commit to one of each boss per week, which is four of the 460 slots - maybe I can handle five or six. I have a friend that I am pretty sure will do the same. So already we are 2% of the way there before we even start.

A word about commitment - we won't all make everything we sign up for. Though I play late at night, there are some nights that sleep deprivation catches up to me and I just go down for the count. I don't plan it, it just happens. If that happens to be one of my nights, then I will miss. Or maybe there will be other reasons - travel or whatever. If we know about them in advance we can cover for each other, but if it's just an "I forgot" or whatever, there is still a chance enough will show that it doesn't matter. And if the run doesn't happen, then we are no worse off than we are now.

Another minor point - if the only toons who show up are the ones who have adopted the slot, they can agree among themselves not to do the run - no harm done.

Finally, I would suggest that we appoint a run reporter for each group. I have never done run reports, but I'd volunteer to learn for one or two of the runs I "own". A thread full of good reports will also help to publicize our runs.

If this idea gets discussed and we decide to move ahead with it in some form or other, it will require some organization - specifically, keeping track of who owns what and what slots remain unfilled. I volunteer to take on that task if we get to that point.

That's it. Comments and suggestions are welcome. No point in volunteering until something happens, though I suppose it would be useful to get some idea of the numbers that could be filled from those who would be willing to do something like this. If we can marshall the resources to make this (or something like it) work, then almost 100% of our runs will happen as scheduled.

Tiny Leopard
12-05-2009, 05:49 PM
While I think this could work out with lots of work, I wouldnt be able to do this. I can never really give a for sure that I'll be at a run. One night my parents could say hey lets go out for dinner tonight, then I can't make the run. If this does work out, I wish you the best of luck.

BlueSkyz
12-05-2009, 06:51 PM
I just want to say thank you for caring enough to even make this thread in the first place. You brought a huge smile to my face tonight! The fact that you care what happens with the runs, says alot about you as a person. I like that you took the time to come up with new ideas and I'd be willing to commit to some time slots as well.

I think the runs that definately need the most toon bodies at them is the CEO & CJ. I know most people aren't that comfortable going short at these two boss battles. For the CEO, it isn't a hard battle but it sure is time consuming if you're short on toons.

As far as the run reports go, I usually try and wait to report the runs that I'm on because I think mine are soooooooo boring:yawn: Hopefully I'll get to read a report or two from you in the near future!

I always follow my heart in anything that I do and toontown is no exception. We will grow as a group, all in due time & I want you all to know that I'm proud to be a part of this guild, no matter what happens.

Thanks for caring and sharing your thoughts & ideas, :highfive:

Little Fancy Pedalwhip
12-05-2009, 07:54 PM
I think it would be nice to find out what runs people are going to, for sure.

I can commit to some, however the next 10 days going to be tough. I have 2 finals coming up. After that, I will go to school one night a week and have much more time for Toontown.

I really liked the turnout at this evening's runs and it looks like more and more people are coming. Hopefully people will realize we did not change our name and move one district up soon.

If others would like to commit to runs until our members can find us again, I am certainly happy to do that.

anothertoonmom
12-05-2009, 11:09 PM
I agree that the two runs that need the most bodies are CJ and CEO. Maybe a sign-up or something just for these two bosses? I'm willing.

Captian Bojangles
12-06-2009, 01:10 AM
Im Willing To Commit To Some Of The Boss Runs, IM Currently Working on Cash, But Am Willing With Help To Run All Bosses With The "GUILD" Or Others, The Times Are Not Whats The Problem, It's We Don't Have Enought Commited Toons That Are Willing To Help The Others In The Guild, But I Love This Guild Love What We Are Becoming!!!

Captian Bo.

Sandy
12-06-2009, 12:23 PM
I love going on runs with my Guild Family!
I am busy because of holidays.
I will have more time on hand after the
Christmas show on December 18th.
As of now, I can only get on late evenings.
I will try and make as many as I can .

Sandy
12-13-2009, 02:35 PM
I still get mail at ToonTown Hall of friends asking me why I am not at runs. Most have been under the assumption that Toons United is still The Guild v2.0™ . They were not aware of what happened since all threads were removed. I am trying to inform friends that I know who are confused. Fact is there are many who still are torn and I feel that no one needs to choose. They can go on both runs and play with friends. There is no need for anyone to have to pick and choose. In time we will build up again. I also believe runs have been slow because of holidays. Many are busy this time of the year.We need to be patient. We will get back on track. We can do this!

cattymanxP
12-13-2009, 11:48 PM
OP, great idea, great post, I like your logic a lot. I know lately I've been kind of.. disappointed at the low number of toons showing up to Guild runs, and I think your idea is a definite start.

I would be able to commit to more VPs and CFOs than CJs and CEOs, but I can probably do at least one per week. It will be more over Winter Break when there''s no school (:D) but other than that I just try to make it when I have time and not too much homework.

It would be really hard to get all those slots filled I think, but if we can get something started, that at least covers part of it. I also think we should try and find out which time slots seem to have the least number of people there and make everyone aware that next time they want to do a run maybe try to make one of those? Just thinking. :p

Also, what I do, is when I get merits or whatever in river, I always talk to the people I run with. Like, of course they're looking to do boss runs if they're trying to get options/merits/etc., so why wouldn't they want to try out the Guild? Most of the time they either run with the CCG (and are hoping to try something new) or are running with Toons United and didn't even realize the Guild V2.0 was still around. I know I've been to a few runs where people I ran with in River tried the Guild, so referrals do work! Word of mouth is a good backup to the OP's plan, or any plan, and it will help let people know that this Guild is still alive.. :wavey:

Anyway, very well thought out, and it would be nice to see something like this adapted! If it worked, it would be a nice way to get V2.0 back on its feet with no worries about whether or not a run can be made.:yahoo:

BurntPoppieCorn
12-17-2009, 01:54 AM
I love going on runs with my Guild Family!
I am busy because of holidays.
I will have more time on hand after the
Christmas show on December 18th.
As of now, I can only get on late evenings.
I will try and make as many as I can .


Ditto...I'm in the same boat!

Bongo Boingenbouncer
12-17-2009, 12:52 PM
I still get mail at ToonTown Hall of friends asking me why I am not at runs. Most have been under the assumption that Toons United is still The Guild v2.0™ . They were not aware of what happened since all threads were removed. I am trying to inform friends that I know who are confused. Fact is there are many who still are torn and I feel that no one needs to choose. They can go on both runs and play with friends. There is no need for anyone to have to pick and choose. In time we will build up again. I also believe runs have been slow because of holidays. Many are busy this time of the year.We need to be patient. We will get back on track. We can do this!

I agree with this post 100% I have been running both according to when I am on when a boss run is taking place. I have so far brought along and informed at least 20 or so toons of this guild and gladly bring them along with me. In turn they eventually get the schedules and bring along some of there friends.
Unfortunately, I had been to a couple of early CEO and late night CJ runs that only had 2-3,toons counting myself there, hoping to see those get larger over time.
Give it time and let word of mouth do its thing and I believe the guild will grow with time.
The CCG I have pretty much given up on...although for excitment and a challenge I do on occasion get on an early VP elevator there. :P

Sandy
12-17-2009, 01:44 PM
Another thing that has helped is getting help through the skype chat.
If anyone has skype and would like to be added to the the guild chat room its
a great place to keep all up to par.Luckily its how we have
been managing.If you are not already in the chat room, post
and you will be added.

Little Fancy Pedalwhip
12-17-2009, 05:01 PM
Well I took my last final this morning. So, I will be around a whole lot more. I won't be attending school full-time in the spring and hopefully will be able to spend a lot more time in Toontown.

I think some really great ideas have been brought up here. If each of us brings a member, spreads the word and attends when they can, we will build again. I know many of our old members just don't know we are here, so hopefully they will find us soon and many new members will arrive.

We have been approving new members to the site every day, thanks to those who are spreading the word. In time, we will have full runs again.

:highfive: